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Generation: 2
Generation: 3
| 5. | Marie Louise Rossignol, des Dunes D'Arcuel was born on 29 Mar 1792 in Haiti; died on 29 Apr 1836 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. Notes:
Birth:
Port-de-Paix, St. Domingue (Haiti)
Children:
- 2. Louis Bernard Armand Pilie, Esq. was born on 20 Mar 1816 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; died on 8 Mar 1900 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
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| 6. | Pierre Michel Ambroise Lapice was born est 28 Jun 1797 in Haiti (son of Pierre Michel Lapice, de Bergondy and Dame Rose Eleonore Elizabeth Grenot); died on 17 Feb 1884 in Lauderdale Plantation, St. James Parish, LA; was buried in Natchez City Cemetery, Natchez, Adams Co, MS. Notes:
Pierre..."generally known as P.M. Lapice...was a merchant, sugar planter, and large-scale enslaver of 19th-century Mississippi and Louisiana..."
If any good thing regarding enslavement by this family could be said, it was this: In Isle Santo Domingo, P.M.'s father was a sugar and coffee planter who lost his fortune when the black population in Santo Domingo won their independence from France. And years later, in Louisiana and Mississippi, when P.M.'s slaves were freed as a result of the American Civil War, P.M. also lost his fortune when his fortune "walked off the job".—Based on parts of the Wikipedia article, "P.M. Lapice".
Birth:
Born in the town of Fort Dauphin on the island, St. Dominigue (Hispaniola), which western portion of the island today is Haiti.
The date of his birth as 28 Jun 1797 is from an 1855 Passport Application, signed by him (view document).
Old Map of Haiti showing Fort Dauphin (today is Fort Liberte)
Pierre married Marie Louise Demie on 18 Oct 1821 in Adams Co, MS. Marie was born in 1803 in Haiti; died on 5 Jun 1834 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in Natchez City Cemetery, Natchez, Adams Co, MS. [Group Sheet]
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| 7. | Marie Louise Demie was born in 1803 in Haiti; died on 5 Jun 1834 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in Natchez City Cemetery, Natchez, Adams Co, MS. Notes:
Birth:
Isle Santo Domingo (also known as San Domingo/St. Dominigue/Hispaniola...an island shared by the nations of Haiti and Dominican Republic)
"Mr. La Pice was married in Natchez, Miss., on the 18th of October, 1822, to Mlle. Marie Louise Demiè, a woman of rare beauty, like himself a refugee from the island of San Domingo."—Biographical and historical memoirs of Louisiana...pp533-534 (in a biographical sketch of her eldest son, [Peter M.] Bergondy La Pice; however speaking of his parents (Marie and her husband Pierre).
Old Map of Haiti showing Fort Dauphin (today is Fort Liberte)
Children:
- 3. Rose Eleonore Elizabeth Lapice was born est Betw 1821-1828.
- Peter Michael Bergondy Lapice was born on 4 Mar 1828 in Natchez, Adams Co, MS; died on 20 Nov 1904 in Orleans Parish, LA.
- Joseph Francois Lapice was born est Oct 1828 in Natchez, Adams Co, MS.
- Ambroise Grenot Lapice was born in 1832 in MS; died on 14 Mar 1919 in Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 3, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
- Marie Josephine Lapice was born est 1833 in Natchez, Natchitoches Parish, LA.
- Emile Demie Lapice was born in 1834 in Natchez, Adams Co, MS; died on 6 Mar 1883 in Iberville Parish, LA.
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| 12. | Pierre Michel Lapice, de Bergondy was born in 1743 in Haiti (son of Don Miguel Lapice, de Bergondy and Dame Bellier); died on 5 May 1810 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. Notes:
In the list of "Inhabitants of Santo Domingo without land ownership and heirs of former settlers (1750-1826)", six members of the Grenot family are listed: Ann Marie, Charles Bernard, Anne, Marie-Jeanne-Sophie, Pierre-Ambroise-Isidore and Rose-Eleonore-Elisabeth (Grenot, widow Lapice de Bergondy).
All Grenot heirs listed are just listed as "heirs", except the eldest male sibling, Charles Bernard Grenot. His listing reveals what the heirship pertained to: "Cafeteria. Farm Farm, AF: Derouville, A.N. Subseries D XXV 29" According to the legend of abbreviations, Cafeteria means owner of a coffee shop; AF means Family Alliance. Farm is not listed. However, it would seem to suggest a coffee farm or plantation.
From the related list of "Settlers of Santo Domingo Former Owners (1789)", the following is found re the Derouville family (given as Deronville/Derouville): "Deronville [Derouville?], married Grenot Marie-Jeanne-Angelique 0 Candy. Originally from (La) Ronville near Wimereux (Pas-de-Calais) ?!; AF: Delamarre, Grenot, Legrand". Also listed: "Lapice, dit Bergondy [Lapice de Chateauriant?] Pierre-Michel 0 Cafeteria. /Candy. AF: Grenot"—Note that this Pierre Lapice (1743-11810) and the last legitimate holder of the title "de Bergondy" is the father of Pierre Michel Ambroise Lapice (known as P.M. Lapice, 1797-1884).
Birth:
Ft. Dauphin, St. Domingo
Old Map of Haiti showing Fort Dauphin (today is Fort Liberte)
Pierre married Dame Rose Eleonore Elizabeth Grenot. Rose (daughter of Jean Charles Grenot and Marie Jeanne Angelique Derouville) was born est 1761-1764 in Haiti; died on 10 Jun 1831; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. [Group Sheet]
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| 13. | Dame Rose Eleonore Elizabeth Grenot was born est 1761-1764 in Haiti (daughter of Jean Charles Grenot and Marie Jeanne Angelique Derouville); died on 10 Jun 1831; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. Notes:
In the list of "Inhabitants of Santo Domingo without land ownership and heirs of former settlers (1750-1826)", six members of the Grenot family are listed: Ann Marie, Charles Bernard, Anne, Marie-Jeanne-Sophie, Pierre-Ambroise-Isidore and Rose-Eleonore-Elisabeth (Grenot, widow Lapice de Bergondy).
All Grenot heirs listed are just listed as "heirs", except the eldest male sibling, Charles Bernard Grenot. His listing reveals what the heirship pertained to: "Cafeteria. Farm Farm, AF: Derouville, A.N. Subseries D XXV 29" According to the legend of abbreviations, Cafeteria means owner of a coffee shop; AF means Family Alliance. Farm is not listed. However, it would seem to suggest a coffee farm or plantation.
From the related list of "Settlers of Santo Domingo Former Owners (1789)", the following is found re the Derouville family (given as Deronville/Derouville): "Deronville [Derouville?], married Grenot Marie-Jeanne-Angelique 0 Candy. Originally from (La) Ronville near Wimereux (Pas-de-Calais) ?!; AF: Delamarre, Grenot, Legrand". Also listed: "Lapice, dit Bergondy [Lapice de Chateauriant?] Pierre-Michel 0 Cafeteria. /Candy. AF: Grenot", and his wife, Louise Demie Lapice, 0, heir."—Note that this Pierre Lapice (1743-1810) and the last legitimate holder of the title "de Bergondy" is the father of Pierre Michel Ambroise Lapice (known as P.M. Lapice, 1797-1884).
—— Lists at: https://www.domingino.de/stdomin/index_colons_a_z.html
NOTE: Although the author of these lists was unclear about the surnames as La Ronville versus, Derouville (de Rouville), a look at modern maps shows that Rouville is in Normandy, while La Ronville is far to the north and not in Normandy. The history of the Lapice family says that they were descended from a noble family in Normandy...which agrees with their being allied with the Derouville family at least partly through marriage into the Grenot family.
Birth:
The Maribaroux Plain, a coastal plain in northeastern Haiti (Isle St. Domingo) by the Massacre River (Dajabon River).
Name:
(Rose Eleonore Isavel)
Children:
- 6. Pierre Michel Ambroise Lapice was born est 28 Jun 1797 in Haiti; died on 17 Feb 1884 in Lauderdale Plantation, St. James Parish, LA; was buried in Natchez City Cemetery, Natchez, Adams Co, MS.
- Joseph Francois La Pice was born in 1800 in Haiti; died on 12 May 1861 in Paris, France.
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| 26. | Jean Charles Grenot was born in in Paris, France; died on 5 Sep 1778 in Haiti. Notes:
Buried:
Records for Ft. Dauphin, St. Domingue, 1778
Translation of death date and burial place: "Le Cing Septembre mil Sept 'ent Soixante Dix huit, ja: inhume Sans le Cimetiere de cette paroisse" in English: The 5th of September one thousand Seventy Eight and: buried without the Cemetery of this parish. The cemetery for "this parish" is the cemetery for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Fort-Liberte (Fort Dauphin). That cemetery is just southeast of St. Joseph's Cathedral. His burial then is outside of the cemetery proper.
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Died:
Old Map of Haiti showing Fort Dauphin (today is Fort Liberte)
Jean married Marie Jeanne Angelique Derouville. Marie was born in 1736 in Haiti; died on 17 May 1816 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. [Group Sheet]
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| 27. | Marie Jeanne Angelique Derouville was born in 1736 in Haiti; died on 17 May 1816 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA. Notes:
In the list of "Inhabitants of Santo Domingo without land ownership and heirs of former settlers (1750-1826)", six members of the Grenot family are listed: Ann Marie, Charles Bernard, Anne, Marie-Jeanne-Sophie, Pierre-Ambroise-Isidore and Rose-Eleonore-Elisabeth (Grenot, widow Lapice de Bergondy).
All Grenot heirs listed are just listed as "heirs", except the eldest male sibling, Charles Bernard Grenot. His listing reveals what the heirship pertained to: "Cafeteria. Farm Farm, AF: Derouville, A.N. Subseries D XXV 29" According to the legend of abbreviations, Cafeteria means owner of a coffee shop; AF means Family Alliance. Farm is not listed. However, it would seem to suggest a coffee farm or plantation.
From the related list of "Settlers of Santo Domingo Former Owners (1789)", the following is found re the Derouville family (given as Deronville/Derouville): "Deronville [Derouville?], married Grenot Marie-Jeanne-Angelique 0 Candy. Originally from (La) Ronville near Wimereux (Pas-de-Calais) ?!; AF: Delamarre, Grenot, Legrand". Also listed: "Lapice, dit Bergondy [Lapice de Chateauriant?] Pierre-Michel 0 Cafeteria. /Candy. AF: Grenot", and his wife, Louise Demie Lapice, 0, heir."—Note that this Pierre Lapice (1743-1810) and the last legitimate holder of the title "de Bergondy" is the father of Pierre Michel Ambroise Lapice (known as P.M. Lapice, 1797-1884).
—— Lists at: https://www.domingino.de/stdomin/index_colons_a_z.html
NOTE: Although the author of these lists was unclear about the surnames as La Ronville versus, Derouville (de Rouville), a look at modern maps shows that Rouville is in Normandy, while La Ronville is far to the north and not in Normandy. The history of the Lapice family says that they were descended from a noble family in Normandy...which agrees with their being allied with the Derouville family at least partly through marriage into the Grenot family.
Birth:
(variously Mariharoux, St. Dominque, Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic)
Children:
- Charles Bernard Grenot was born in 1757.
- Pierre Ambroise Isidore Grenot was born in in Haiti.
- 13. Dame Rose Eleonore Elizabeth Grenot was born est 1761-1764 in Haiti; died on 10 Jun 1831; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
- Jean Pierre Grenot was born on 9 Apr 1767 in Haiti.
- Maria Margarita Grenot was born in 1767; died in 1810.
- Marie Jeanne Sophie Grenot was born on 2 Feb 1769 in Haiti; died on 23 Jun 1830 in Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
- Francois Casimir Grenot was born on 3 Jan 1776 in Haiti; was christened on 18 May 1776 in Haiti; died on 18 Nov 1826 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 2, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
- Annette Grenot was born in in Haiti; died on 12 May 1837 in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
- Unnamed daughter of Jean Charles Grenot was born in in Haiti; died in in New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA; was buried in 1838 in St. Louis Cemetery No. 1, New Orleans, Orleans Parish, LA.
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