Harold Kurns

Notes:

Name unknown. Son of Taw and Lillian...who may have been from Lillian's previous marriage. Said to live in an institution.

Name:
(surname also given as Kerns and Carnes)

Birth:
Harold's father is given as Wm. Kerns in his birth record. His mother is not listed.

Notes:

Name:
(also Kerns)

John married Pink Lillie Plumley on 15 Mar 1915 in Lincoln Co, WV. Pink (daughter of James Calloway Plumley and Octavia Egnor) was born on 04 May 1900 in Griffithsville, Lincoln Co, WV; died on 2 Apr 1987 in South Charleston, Kanawha Co, WV; was buried in Forest Memorial Park, Milton, Cabell Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Also given as Lillian. Her signature on her delayed birth certificate shows a middle initial W.

Buried:
Section II

Notes:

YEAR AGE EVENT/LOCATION {Source}
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1880 RES: IN CENSUS


3rd husband of Octavia Egnor

In death record for Eva Belle Saddler, her father is listed as Cal Plumley. This seems to be her step-father. Octavia Egnor was married to a Plumley.

However, the 1900 census record shows Eva as daughter of James Plumley, and the 1910 census shows her as step daughter of James Sadler, establishing both her natural parent and the order of the two marriages, Plumley followed by Sadler.

Gould family records give Cal as Calloway Plumley, son of Sylvester Plumley and Mary Ann "Margaret" Egnor...thus my uncle Sylvester's namesake.

James married Octavia Egnor about 1888 in Lincoln Co, WV. Octavia (daughter of John Washington Egnor, Sr. and Lucinda Frances Plumley) was born in 1860 in VA; died after 1930 in WV. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

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(their notes)
YEAR AGE EVENT/LOCATION {Source}
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MAR: MARRIED FOUR TIMES
MAR: 1ST TO SMITH
MAR: 2ND TO ???
MAR: 3RD TO WILLIAM HORTON
MAR: 4TH TO JAMES SADDLER
BIR: 1856, 1857, OR 1860

Birth: ABT 1856 in VA (per 1870 census)
Birth: ABT 1857 in Per Anthony Ray Gould
Birth: ABT 1860 in Per Carolyn Saul
Birth: 1860 in Per Lincoln County book
Death: UNKNOWN
Census: 1860 not listed
Census: 1870 Listed as age 14, in Union Twp, Griffithsville PO #25, Lincoln Co, WV
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1870 Lincoln Co. WV Fed Census, Union Twp, Griffithsville PO, Pg4
#25-25 John W. Egnor 37, farmer, born VA, cannot read or write;
Lucinda 35, housekeeper, born VA, cannot read or write;
Mathias 16, labors on farm, born VA;
Martin 15, labors on farm, born VA;
Octavia 14, Mary 19; Martha 8; Lucinda Jr. 4, John 1

Doug Couch notes May 2009:
From various records found, the apparent order of marriages is 1)Smith, 2)Horton, 3)Plumley, 4)Saddler. Relatives of the time say there was an additional husband, Sutliff...order not known. She is said to be Indian...said to be full-blood Cherokee. For many years we did not know her given or surname. In late 2008, information surfaced showing her as Octavia Egnor, confirmed by several census records, etc.



Name:
View First Name Variations

• Note: Not in 1860 census with parents, unknown reason
• Octava given as age 14 - 1870 Census
• Octavia given as age 19 - 1880 Census with Floyd Smith
• Octavy given as age 22 - 1882 Marriage to William Horton
• Octaby is a typo re "Octavy" in the 1882 Marriage Record
• Octavia in 1898 Delayed Birth Record of son Sylvester
• Octavie in 1900 Delayed Birth Certificate of daughter Lillie
• Octavia given as age 44 - 1900 Census with James Plumley
• Octova given as age 50 - 1910 Census with James Sadler
• Octava given as age 56 - 1920 Census as Widow with sons
• Tava given as age 56 - 1930 Census with son Sylvester
• Octavie in 1939 Death Certificate of daughter Martha
• Octavia in 1949 Death Certificate of daughter Eva
• Octova in 1950 Death Certificate of son Albert
• Octavia in 1958 Death Certificate of son Willy

Birth:
No record has been found for Octavia's birth as an Egnor or death with any last name ascribed to her spouses. Family lore has it that she was an Indian of Cherokee descent, but no further information was given. As she doesn't show in the 1860 census and then shows in the 1870 census as 14 years old, it is possible she was informally adopted into the family. Without U.S., VA/WV or Cherokee records showing this, it is not possible to determine.

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If she was Cherokee, none of the ancestors shown here were actually hers...unless some of them were actually Cherokee.

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Interestingly, her grandchildren through her daughter, Mary Frances Horton Atkins, never provided either a first or last name or a specific tribe for Octavia when asked, even though decades later it came to light that Mary's oldest daughter at least, did know her name and tribe. This would be congruent with her children instructing her grandchildren throughout their lives to not reveal this information to avoid persecution and possible relocation as an Indian.

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Information previously unavailable: A granddaughter of Octavia whose mother grew up away from her siblings after her parents died in 1928 & 1931, said that DNA testing has been done by one of the granddaughter's siblings, and no Native American blood was indicated. Those grandchildren had also been told about being descended from Native Americans (as had the granddaughter's mother's siblings). If more information comes to light and is suitable for showing here, I will add it at that time.

Notes:

3rd Husband to Octavia

Sylvester married Margareth A. Egnor on 26 Feb 1856 in Left Fork Mud River, Cabell Co, WV. Margareth (daughter of Archibald Egnor and Lahoma Lany Massey) was born on 27 Dec 1837 in Union, Monroe Co, VA; died est 1866. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Name:
Some have listed her as Mary Ann Egnor with nickname Margaret. I listed her here that way for years and while previous researchers may have been correct in listing her that way, I see no basis for it. The 1950 census at age 12 shows her as Margareth A. Egnor clearly. Her 1856 marriage record (year per contiguous years listed for those marriages showing a year) is extremely difficult to read. According to extreme magnifications up to 600% and variations in brightness and contrast, her name seems to be Margreta A. Egnor (age 18). Her husband's name is even more difficult to read but appears to be Sylvester Plumly (age 23). Therefore, her name here has been changed to read Margareth A. Egnor and her marriage year changed from 1854 to 1856. [Note: archive.wvculture.org had a difficult time with Sylvester's name also, listing him as "Cubredea" Plumly. Magnification shows the "C" is actually what remains of an S, the "u" is actually a y, the "red" is actually a ves with the s being the left part of what was given as a "d" and the right part of that "d" is a t, followed by what they give as "ea" but is actually er. Other corroborative information researched by others long ago confirms that Sylvester is correct.]

John married Lucinda Frances Plumley in 1850. Lucinda (daughter of Mathias Plumley and Mary Smith) was born on 11 May 1835 in Cabell Co, VA; died on 1 Sep 1908; was buried in Wash Egnor Cemetery, Sand Fork, Griffithsville, Lincoln Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

YEAR AGE EVENT/LOCATION {Source}
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1835 BIR: 11 MAY 1835 OR JAN 1835
1835 BIR: JAN 1835 FROM SHARON ABSHIRE
2399 SWINGS CORNER
POINT ISABEL ROAD
BETHEL, OH 45106-9556
1908 DEA: FROM SHARON ABSHIRE
1908 DEA: BURIED ON RIDGE NEAR CHURCH, SAND FORK, LINCOLN CO., WVA

Mathias married Mary Smith on 3 Sep 1829 in VA. Mary (daughter of Jacob SMITH and Susanna CAMPBELL) was born on 26 Jul 1813 in Greenbrier Co, VA; died in 1889 in WV; was buried in Plumley Cemetery, Sias, Lincoln Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Archibald married Lahoma Lany Massey on 15 Sep 1832 in Monroe Co, VA. Lahoma (daughter of Jeptha MASSIE, Jr. and Anna MEADOWS) was born on 02 Jun 1811 in Monroe Co, VA; died on 16 Sep 1850 in Griffithville, White Co, VA; was buried in Griffith Cemetery, Griffithsville, Lincoln Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Other records show her as Lany Massey. The name as Lahoma Lany Massey is from the Mullins family records.

Buried:
(Griffith Cemetery was in VA until WV became a state.)

Notes:

Died:
John's birth year given on stone as 1865

John married Catherine Kaylor on 23 Dec 1799 in Christianburg, Montgomery Co, VA. Catherine (daughter of Mathias Kaylor and Katherine Cheter) was born on 11 Apr 1780 in VA; died in 1843 in Raleigh Co, VA; was buried in New Salem Baptist Church Cemetery, Abraham, Raleigh Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Name:
Catherine's maiden name spelled Kaler on John's gravestone

Birth:
birth also listed as in Germany

Jacob married Susanna CAMPBELL. Susanna (daughter of Archibald CAMPBELL) was born on 1 Oct 1791 in USA; died on 25 Apr 1824 in Raleigh Co, VA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

children
Campbell
William T.
John
Mary "Polly"
Virginia Jane
Elizabeth "Betty" Ann
Washington
Ruth
Canada
Lewis
Joseph
Nancy

Notes:

These entries were automated: (gleaned from LDS file per Aegender records)
Line in Record @I075@ (RIN 75) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
ALIA John /Agner/
Line in Record @I075@ (RIN 75) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
RESI
Line in Record @I075@ (RIN 75) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS
Line in Record @I075@ (RIN 75) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS
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Their Aegender notes: Aug 1999

Circumstantial evidence points to John Agner, Jr. and his wife Barbara being the parents of our Archibald Egnor!

Original findings concerning John Jr. are being re-examined. We now believe that the Johns in Rockbridge were confused and that John Jr. did go to Monroe County about 1823. Based on this and other circumstantial evidence, we are assuming that John Jr. is the father of Archibald and Elizabeth Egnor.

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Doug Couch notes 2008: Also given as "? Egnor" in One Family Tree family records. Gould family records show father of Archibald as Egnor with wife Mary. Apparently, there are serious errors with this lineage. Where shown as John Agner, wife Barbara, daughter Mary is born when he is 11, and dies when he is 98, an unlikely but not impossible relationship. The above comment from the Aegender family records-notes, about the "Johns in Rockbridge" being confused, is unclear. To keep children groups, and people given as spouses organized, Barbara is shown with her children, and Mary (Polly?) is shown with hers. The claim that John Agner (Jr.) and Barbara are the parents of Archibald does not agree with the family linkage given in the same database where the comment was entered. Therefore, it is here "assumed" that there were two spouses, and that Mary and/or Polly is the mother of Archibald...until better documentation can be found.

Birth:
also given in Mullins family records as b.1773...a less likely date

Died:
death place from Mullins family records

John married Barbara. Barbara was born in 1770 in MD; died in 1821 in VA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Died:
death also given as abt/bef 1830

Notes:

Doug Couch 2008 note: Ancestors and any collateral lines beyond Jeptha Massie 1779-1853 are from online family data of Paul E. McFerrin:
http://home.att.net/~paulmcferrin/geneology/fam00590.html

Neither a Lahoma nor Lany are listed as children of Jeptha Massie and Anna Meadows in the McFerrin data. Thus the McFerrin data is unclear whether correctly connected to Lany.

Ancestors given by McFerrin data:

1-Jeptha 1779
2-Jeptha Massie 1750 VA - 1855
2-Mary Sowards b.VA
3-John Massey 1720 MD - 1781 MD
3-Sarah Strong
4-James (Massey)
4-Rachel Jayne
5-Nicholas Massey, Jr. abt 1662 - 1724
5-Mary? abt 1666 - abt 1725
6-Nicholas Massey abt 1630 - abt 1693, md. MD
6-Anne b.MD

This general lineage is reiterated in the billmassey data at
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7wwc2/index.html

Extremely lengthy researched lineage of the Massey family (not currently connected to this line) is found at:
http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a1.htm#g1
This line goes back to the 10th century.

Died:
McFerrin data lists death 1853 in Lawrence Co, OH.

Jeptha married Anna MEADOWS on 21 Feb 1806 in Monroe Co, VA. Anna was born in 1788 in VA; died in 1860 in VA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Doug notes 2008:

Anna Meadows given in Mullins records as born 27 Feb 1806, unlikely spouse relationship and impossible son relationship. 1850 census shows Jeptha Massie, wife Anna and son William, with Anna's estimated birth year as 1788, a much more likely date, used here.

Anna's children are given differntly in different records. Thomas, Lahoma/Lany, William, and Jeptha are common to the various records (except one doesn't show Lahoma/Lany). Her other children's birth years, extend her child-bearing years beyond what one would expect, and children cited as by Jeptha Jr's second wife overlap those years. They are included here for reference, but many may not be her children. Similarly, other records looked at do not list a second wife. For my ancestors, I will make an effort to obtain documentation of their relationships.

Died:
McFerrin data lists death place as Lawrence Co, OH.

Notes:

Married:
This date is for the Marriage Bond, presumably before the marriage, but could have been on that date as well.

George married Elizabeth LEWIS. Elizabeth was born after 1737; and died. [Group Sheet]

Mathias married Katherine Cheter on 11 Apr 1780 in Germany. Katherine was born on 20 Mar 1760 in Germany; died in in Fayette Co, WV. [Group Sheet]

Christopher married Elizabeth RICHMOND about 1780. Elizabeth was born about 1760; died about 1838 in Greenbrier Co, VA. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
ALIA John Eagner; John /Agner/, Sr.

Alternate name found in GEDCOM file: John /Agner/

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
RESI

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
SURN Eigender is the earliest spelling known, as spelled on baptism records of 2 children

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
PROP

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
PROP

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
PROP

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
WILL

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
WILL

Line in Record @I016@ (RIN 16) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
_MILT


Rockbridge Heritage Book states on page 141: "Ludwig Agner is said to have had sons, John, Joseph, and George. It is probable his son John is the same John who came to Rockbridge County, Virginia. John Agner shows in Washington County, Maryland in 1790."

Is this the John listed as John Agnes in the 1820 Rockbridge County, VA census (page 278)?

In the 1830 Rockbridge County, VA census, a John Agnes Sr. is listed on page 285, but there is also a John Agner and a John Agner, Jr. listed on page 285.

John married Margaretha in Northampton Co, PA. Margaretha died between 1805 and 10. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Line in Record @I015@ (RIN 15) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
PROP

Name given in parentheses as Margaretha ? (Mrs. John Eagnor) in Aegender records.

Jeptha married Mary SOWARDS. Mary was born in 1759 in VA. [Group Sheet]

Samuel married Elizabeth. Elizabeth was born about 1677; and died. [Group Sheet]

married Maria Catharina Zipperlin in Germany. Maria (daughter of Hans Johannes Zipperlin and Anna Barbara Colb) was born on 9 Apr 1671 in Malmsheim, Boblingen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany; was christened on 9 Apr 1671 in Malmsheim, Baden-Wuerttemburger, Germany; died on 12 May 1752 in Leonberg, Boblingen, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Line in Record @I008@ (RIN 8) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
ALIA Ludwig /Aegendener/, Ludwig Agner

Line in Record @I008@ (RIN 8) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
RESI

Line in Record @I008@ (RIN 8) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I008@ (RIN 8) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS

Line in Record @I008@ (RIN 8) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
CENS


There is a tax record for Ludwig Aigner on page 12 of the 1772 Northampton Co, PA (Williams Twp) tax list.

Mail from Sharon Agner notes that Ludwig had bought land in Washington County, MD, near Sharpsburg c.1773. Ludwig had died by 1791, no will had been found, an appraisal of the estate is dated 1791.

From the Revolutionary War:
There is a Henry and a John Eignor (of the Elizabethtown district that would later become Hagerstown, Frederick County, MD) and Benedict Eiginer (of Washington County, MD). Found in the MD State Archives in a book called "Revolutionary Patriots of Washington County, MD 1776-1883. It had:
John EIGNOR, 3rd Militia Compnay Elizabeth Town District: Frederick County
MD; Militia, 4th class, Captain Henry Botelers Co. 1776/1777; ref=m237
a=1146 listed name as John IGINTOR
Benedict EIGNOR, 3rd Militia Company Elizabeth Town District: Frederick
County MD; ref=m241 listed name as Benedict IGONDER, 5 Jun 1776, Captain
John Reynolds
Henry EIGNOR, 3rd Militia Company, 5th class, Elizabeth Town District:
Frederick County MD; ref=m241 listed name as Henry IGONDER, Captain Joseph
Chapline Company, 2nd Battalion.

Unknown census names from 1790:
Agner, Samuel in Washington Co, PA (on Ohio border)
Egnar, Peter in WashingtonCo, PA
Are these children/grandchildren of Ludwig?????

Washington County, MD Land Record G 7; page 424 and 425 found July 1999 in the MD State Archives. This deed found by Patsy Adkins (padkins@newwave.net) and transcribed by Celia Hartmann (hartmann@bright.net). Either of us may also be reached at Gen_Searchin@yahoo.com

Land Record G 7; page 424 and 425

At the request of John Eagnor the following deed was recorded June 13th 1791 to wit

This indenture made the eighth day of June in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety one between Christine Eagener the late [wife ? doesn't look like the word, but makes sense] of Lodowick Eagoner deceased and Peter Holmes and Catherine his wife[,] George Eagner[,]Christian Piper and Margaret his wife being daughter of Ludowick Eagner[,]Christian Tomer and Mary his wife _____ daugther of the aforesaid Lodowick Eagner deceased of the one part and John Eagner of Washington County and State of Maryland of the other part witnesseth that Lodowick Eagner died intestate and that the above parties each haveing a lawful claim of the said property of the deceased____________ [and his estate?] and to prevent any further trouble and expenses we the above Christine Eagner and Peter Holmes and Catherine his wife[,] George Eagner son of Lodwoick Eagner[,] Christian Piper and Margaret his wife[,] Christian Tomer and Mary his wife for and in consideration of the sum of one hundred and fifty pounds current money ___ ___ ___ __ in hand by the said John Eagnor son and heir of Lodowick Eagner _____ before the _______ and delivery of _________ _________. They the said Christine Eagnor[,] Peter Holmes and Catherine his wife[,] George Eagner[,] Christian Piper and Margaret his wife[,] Christian Tomer and Mary his wife _______ for the above consideration granted bargained sold aliened ______ed and confirmed and ____ by ____ __ _____ bargain sell and confirm unto him the said John Eagner his heirs and assigns forever all that tract or parcell of land situated lying and being in Washington County and state aforesaid called called B___jana Parry beginning at a bounded ash standing in a little bottom by Potomack [sic] River about half a mile above a tract of land laid out for John Hillary and running hence north forty-four degrees east seventy-seven perches north eighteen degrees east forty-one perches north thirty-one perches, north nine degrees, west forty perches north seventy-seven degrees, east seventy-two perches south twenty-three degrees east forty-two perches north eighty-one degrees east twenty-two perches south thirty-five degrees east thirty-one perches south fifty degrees east twenty-seven perches south fifty-one degrees west one hundred and fifteen perches, then by a straight line to the beginning, containing and laid out for one hundred acre of land more or less to have an dto hold the aforesaid land and premises together with all and ___ingular the land and premises with the ______ profit previleges advantages and appertaining to the _____ land belonging or there unto appertaining to him the said John Eagner his heirs executers administrators and assigns forever and unto and the said Christene Eagner[,] Peter Holmes and Catherine his wife[,] George Eagner[,] Christian Eagner [this word has a line through it indicating the writer made an error] Piper and Margaret his wife[,] Christian Tomer and Mary his wife that they and each of their heirs executors administrators shall and will from time to time and at all times warrant and forever defend the aforesaid land and premises and every parts of the aforesaid _________ and remainder there unto belonging _______ ________ there unto appertaining against shall promise of persons claiming any right of title ______ _____ _____demand ____ any of the aforesaid land ex___fully claiming the same by from or under our heirs executors administrators only to him the said John Eagnor his heirs executors administrators and assigns forever. In _____ whereunto the said Christine Eagner and Peter Holmes and Catherine his wife[,] Christian Piper and Margaret his wife[,] George Eagnor and Christian Tomer and Mary his wife hath hereunto set their hand and affixed their seal, this day and year first above written.

Signed Sealed and Delivered } Wm Good
in the presents of } ___ Crampton?

Christine Eagoner [between Christine and Eagoner there is a mark of some sort that looks kind of like an m, I assume this to be her mark though it does not indicate such --CH] {seal}

Peter Holmes {seal}

her
Catherine x Holmes {seal}
mark

his
George x Eagner {seal}
mark

Christian Piper {seal} [I assume this is his signature, it does not say "his mark" and is hard to read. Looks more like Jerplain Prifry --CH]

her
Margaret x Piper {seal}
mark

Christian Domar {seal} [This is definitely a signature, very readable]

her
Mary x Domar {seal}
mark

On the back the same deed dis______ the following ind______ments to wit-----

Received June the eighth one thousand seven hundred and ninety-one of John Eagner the sum of one hundred and fifty pounds current money it being the consideration money within mentioned _______ received by us

her

Catherine x Holmes
________ Wm Good Thos. Crampton mark

Maryland Washington County ___ June the eighth one thousand seven hundred and ninety-one then _______ before [.....there may have been more the next page, but we didn't get it!.....--CH]

Ludwig married Maria Christina MAHN on 11 Oct 1748 in Whitehall Township, Bucks Co, PA. Maria died after 1791. [Group Sheet]

Notes:

Line in Record @I012@ (RIN 12) from GEDCOM file not recognized:
ALIA Margaretha Christina per Williams Twp /Church/

Notes:

Married:
Rev. A. S. Leiby, Pennsylvania Record Book 1740-1850, p. 9, Ludwig Agener to Christine Mahn in October 11, 1748.

• Marriage at Jordan Lutheran Church in Whitehall.
• Bucks County is now Lehigh County.

John married Sarah STRONG. [Group Sheet]